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Jan 10, 2010 13:11:19 GMT -5
Post by Shannon on Jan 10, 2010 13:11:19 GMT -5
What keeps you believing in 'this'?
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Jan 11, 2010 11:02:12 GMT -5
Post by MsAriel on Jan 11, 2010 11:02:12 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't know... I'm fairly skeptical about a lot of things in life.. But there is something that keeps pulling me back. I don't know if I can say I truly take anything "on faith" or that I use that word often... It's kind of like trust.. to truly trust something you need to fully believe.. I'm finding I have a hard time with that.
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Jan 12, 2010 7:54:45 GMT -5
Post by Shannon on Jan 12, 2010 7:54:45 GMT -5
I'd say I'm the same way. A big part of me is convinced that whatever ideas we have about religion, the universe, and purpose are so far off the mark they are pointless to cultivate.... but then another big part of me can't help myself. What is 'that', that keeps us coming back for more?
Do you think faith is as important an aspect in paganism as it is in some other religions?
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Jan 20, 2010 10:10:01 GMT -5
Post by MsAriel on Jan 20, 2010 10:10:01 GMT -5
I would think it is. I think faith is a cross cultural concept and not just a Christian one. A part of me thinks more so for paganism. Now this is going to sound odd, but here goes.... Christians base their beliefs and faith on a centuries old document, where we can't.. However, that being said.. I think in order to truly believe that the Gods exist we need faith, since chances are very very slim they will show up on this earth and say "Here we are, here is your proof of Our existence."
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Jan 28, 2010 2:09:21 GMT -5
Post by Denethor on Jan 28, 2010 2:09:21 GMT -5
Hm...hm, wow. There is a One Thing...that is just sort of obvious...look at anything and you see it...it is always before you...not so much "faith" as a sort of gut knowing I can't ignore. That summat cloudy statement was in response to "this" in quotes in the opening post. With the quotes there, I got the distinct impression that "this" is that sort of hard to define thing. That got me going on the tangent that asks, what, precisely is "this"? Can "this" even be defined or described? The reason I ask is that for me, as soon as I try to nail "this" down, I can't help but notice that I end up with something only an idiot would believe. Somewhere I read that when you dream of a house, you are dreaming of your mind (bear with me, this gets relevant in a bit). This seemed right to me, which probably means, that for me that is often a correct dream interpretation. All real estate jokes aside, I dream of houses a lot. So sue me, I'm Anglo-Saxon, such an interest is practically inborn. These houses come large and small, I see them indoors and out, ornate and simple, old-fashioned and modern, many spooky secret passages and perfectly ordinary bungalows. They tend to have one thing in common. They are nearly always empty. No shittin'. Often, I'm being shown the house (please don't say it), or moving in. There is usually a top room, well lit. I am always the sole buyer so I can set up the space however I like, and I invariably wish to make that pleasant eyrie my study or bedroom. I go to move furniture in, or take measurements if I'm just being shown the place. I move a desk or something up there, go down to get something else, and return to find the desk has vanished. Ditto for beds, chairs, bookcases. The room simply can't be furnished. Measurements make no sense, or I can't record them. Realtors, bless their flinty hearts, have no answers. That's because I shouldn't be asking a damn Realtor about God. Especially my God. And no God-concept (or Goddess concept or multiple concept or what have you) does the trick. No system works. But that room is still up there, blazing with light from the many windows and skylights that open up on the Sacred Nothing. I just can't describe what keeps me coming back to "this" in any concrete terms, it's just something real that's beyond atheism or theism or one god or many gods or gods with willies or with titties or who dress in any particular way or rule over any nation, religion, or area of life. Faith doesn't quite describe it, belief doesn't work either, and it's certainly not a negative thing or any sort of compulsion. But I'm past caring. (Sorry for the weirdo dreamy post. It's two in the morning. )
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